Legislature(1999 - 2000)

05/04/1999 08:08 AM House CRA

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HJR 23 - COMMUNITY DEVELOP FUND/PFD/BUD RESERVE                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HALCRO announced that the final order of business                                                                   
before the committee would be HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 23,                                                                    
Proposing amendments to the Constitution of the State of Alaska                                                                 
relating to the community development fund, the permanent fund, and                                                             
the budget reserve fund.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1681                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS, Sponsor of HJR 23, Alaska State Legislature,                                                              
recalled that three questions were brought forth at the last                                                                    
meeting which have been addressed in a memorandum.  Representative                                                              
Davis believed that HJR 23 would develop into a revenue source for                                                              
local municipalities to deal with many of the funding schemes put                                                               
in place by past legislatures.  People have come to depend on those                                                             
programs.  This legislation goes a long way in correcting and                                                                   
continuing valuable programs that would be subject to decreasing                                                                
funding.  Representative Davis pointed out that the concerns                                                                    
regarding the eligibility of these funds is addressed on page 1,                                                                
lines 14-16.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HARRIS moved to adopt CSHJR 23, Version LS0573\D, Cook,                                                             
4/8/99, as the working document before the committee.  There being                                                              
no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS pointed out that the language incorporated on                                                              
page 1, lines 14-16 of the proposed CS should be broad enough to                                                                
accommodate the formation of additional municipalities and other                                                                
municipalities under statute.  With regard to the question of how                                                               
the fund will be invested and who will administer it,                                                                           
Representative Davis said that initially the Department of Revenue                                                              
will invest and administer the fund.  It is possible that in the                                                                
future the legislature could establish an investment group similar                                                              
to the Permanent Fund Corporation.  Representative Davis emphasized                                                             
that this resolution merely puts the question to the voters as to                                                               
whether this fund should be created, no statute is established.                                                                 
Therefore, there is much leeway for future legislatures to develop                                                              
the statute.  With regard to the distribution of the funds,                                                                     
Representative Davis said it was his intention that the funds be                                                                
distributed with no strings attached.  Here again, this will be                                                                 
left up to future legislatures.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HALCRO understood that when the permanent fund was                                                                  
developed, such investment and distribution questions were                                                                      
determined after the fund was established.  He asked if that was                                                                
Representative Davis' understanding as well.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS replied yes.  The constitutional amendment for                                                             
the permanent fund only asked if a savings account should be                                                                    
established.  How the earnings would be distributed or spent was                                                                
not addressed.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI asked if the community development fund                                                                
would mesh with any long-term fiscal plan.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS said that he believed it would.  This fund is                                                              
the answer to the elimination of municipal assistance and revenue                                                               
sharing which is the intent.  He noted that this legislation was                                                                
offered during the last legislature.  As this fund grows, the state                                                             
would be able to transfer many of its functions and expenditures to                                                             
municipalities.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI noted that former Governor Hickel had                                                                  
discussed an individual community permanent fund.  How would this                                                               
fund relate to the former Governor Hickel's idea?                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS stated that he was not exactly sure, but the                                                               
idea for this fund came from the former Governor Hickel's idea.                                                                 
There are definitely differences between the two proposals.  He                                                                 
indicated that Representative Moses may have a similar proposal as                                                              
well.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 2205                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN RITCHIE, Alaska Municipal League (AML), noted that the                                                                    
committee should have two brown sheets from the AML.  He said that                                                              
this legislation is a way to eliminate the general funds for state                                                              
revenue sharing and potentially capital matching grants.  This is                                                               
part of a long-range fiscal plan.  The public needs to know that                                                                
those services most important to them, roads, police, fire, et                                                                  
cetera, are things that can continue.  Therefore, this would be                                                                 
important in selling a long-range fiscal plan to the public.  Mr.                                                               
Ritchie stated that the legislature will have to answer the                                                                     
question, "Does this somehow hurt the state budget?"  He pointed                                                                
out that the "Alaska Plan" and the community development fund are                                                               
endowments.  A separate endowment of $750 million would be set                                                                  
aside for the community development fund.  The AML feels that would                                                             
further the state's goals to transition programs to municipalities.                                                             
He emphasized the importance of those municipalities being able to                                                              
accept those programs.  Furthermore, municipalities would need to                                                               
be assured that there will be a long-term source of funding that                                                                
will not be reduced in one year, two years, or three years.  He                                                                 
indicated that this fund would be a way to achieve such.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. RITCHIE referred the committee to the example listed on the                                                                 
bottom of the first page of the AML document.  The example points                                                               
out that currently there are separate state and local road                                                                      
maintenance shops.  Local governments in some communities would not                                                             
be able to accept, consolidate and pay for road maintenance.                                                                    
Historically, the state has only been able to commit funds for road                                                             
maintenance for one year.  Mr. Ritchie said that having a fund like                                                             
the proposed community development fund would allow a long-term                                                                 
plan between state and local governments.  For that reason, the AML                                                             
supports this legislation.  Mr. Ritchie noted that page 2 of the                                                                
AML document is an example of what could comprise a long-range                                                                  
fiscal plan.  By doing this, municipalities would not be after a                                                                
windfall of funds from the state.  As funding increases, so would                                                               
the level of services provided by municipalities.  As funding                                                                   
increases, there would also potentially be a decrease in the level                                                              
of service provided by the state.  That is why page 2 of the AML                                                                
document has $0 indicating that there would not be a net revenue                                                                
increase for local governments.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HARRIS referred to page 2 of the AML document which has                                                             
a heading, "Eliminate $68 million State GF to:".  If the state                                                                  
eliminates some areas, how would the municipality eliminate those                                                               
as well because those figures are bracketed.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. RITCHIE explained that it would take two years for the                                                                      
community development fund to create revenue.  Therefore, the                                                                   
elimination of municipal revenue sharing is not recommended for                                                                 
this year.  This would be a transition from revenue sharing to a                                                                
community development fund.  He pointed out that the revenue in                                                                 
brackets which would be eliminated for revenue sharing and                                                                      
municipal capital matching grants could be replaced with a gas tax                                                              
and the community development fund.  He reiterated that this is                                                                 
just an example and there are many options.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HARRIS asked if it was the intent to include education                                                              
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. RITCHIE replied no.  Currently, education funding is                                                                        
approximately $800 million.  Mr. Ritchie said that it would be                                                                  
difficult to imagine placing enough money in the community                                                                      
development fund to replace that type of state funding.  He                                                                     
reiterated that this is just an example and there are many options.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HALCRO asked if there was anyone who would like to                                                                  
testify on HJR 23.  There being no one, the public testimony was                                                                
closed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 2600                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HARRIS moved to report CSHJR 23, Version LS0573\D,                                                                  
Cook, 4/8/99, out of committee with individual recommendations and                                                              
the accompanying two fiscal notes.   There being no objection, it                                                               
was so ordered.                                                                                                                 

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